ADVISORY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMISSION
1B
Government of the District of Columbia
Columbia Heights
/ LeDroit Park / Shaw / University Heights
5 August
2004, True Reformer Building
1200 U Street NW
Attending: Commissioners Guyot,
Spalding, Hammonds, Thomas, Houston, Butler, Skinner, Esters,
Wright
Absent: Commissioner Wilson
Quorum was achieved just after
7PM. In the Secretary’s report
Commissioner Spalding gave an overview and provided materials for those
interested in running for ANC Commissioner. Minutes of the July meeting were moved,
and Commissioner Esters asked for a small change on page 8 which the Secretary
noted and will adjust. Minutes were
seconded and adopted on a unanimous vote (8-0-0). In the Treasurer’s report Commissioner
Esters stated that the balance as of June 30th was $95,024.08, and we
had one check clear in July #1545 for $2,500.00 to One Common Unity for Grant
#04-08, and the current balance as of July 31st is $92,524.08. Treasurer’s report was moved and
seconded and adopted unanimously (8-0-0).
Secretarial expenses for June and July for $55.55 and $242.11 were moved,
seconded and adopted unanimously (8-0-0).
In Community Events and
Announcements Commissioner Spalding stated that Warner Brothers would be
shooting a major motion picture “Syriana” featuring Matt Damon, Amanda Peet and
George Clooney beginning next week.
13th
Street, Florida Avenue, and the 1200 blocks of V
and W would be used during a schedule described by Commissioner Spalding. Scott
Pomeroy announced the 5th Annual Dog Days of August Sale which will be held
this coming weekend August 7th and 8th. More businesses will be participating,
and the first annual dog competition will be held near 10th and
U. Cultural Tourism will be
conducting walking tours, and the African American Civil War Museum will be
exhibiting in a tent located near 10th and U. Table space is still available at
14th and U for local nonprofits who want to do some
proselytizing. The entire event has
been organized and promoted for under $1,000, so you’re invited to come see what
happens when so many of your local businesses pitch in and celebrate their
community. Home Roots Foundation
announced a meeting on August 30th at 7PM on the second floor of the
Reeves
Center focusing on
affordable housing. Reverend Sandra
Butler-Truesdale announced that Campbell Heights will be holding an at large
candidates endorsement meeting on August 30th between the hours of
6PM and 8PM. A developer mentioned
that he wanted to address the Commission in regard to ongoing work at
11th and T Streets, and he was referred to Commissioner Spalding to
arrange for time on the September agenda.
Commissioner Padro announced the Shaw Historic Bicycle Tour, and he
presented brochures that explain the program. Tony Norman of the Pleasant Plains Civic
Assoc. and also Chairman of the McMillan Park Committee expressed concern with
the discussion of Office of Planning’s agenda item dealing with an RFP for the
Sand Filtration Site.
David Franco from Level 2
Development presented designs for HPRB conceptual approval for 1421 Florida
Avenue.
This is currently a vacant lot on a very steeply graded slope. It is located between the traditional
row houses in mid block and a 1950 office building near 14th, with
the back of Jubilee Housing at the rear of the site. The challenge was to weave a design that
would be sympathetic to the three very different surrounding properties, and
makes a contiguous streetscape.
They found the architectural firm responsible for the neighboring
buildings, Architects Collaborative, and asked them to design a building
sympathetic to their other buildings.
They have designed a six unit building of four stories with first level
parking, and the total building height is approximately fifty feet. They have also held discussions with the
office building and Jubilee Housing to update their facades, and both have
expressed an interest in doing so.
In order to maintain the continuity of the streetscape the design is in
line with the facades of the existing buildings, and presents an additional
expense in sheathing and shoring.
They have presented to the Florida Avenue Watch Group and received their
endorsement, and have received initial conceptual approval from the Historic
Preservation Review Board.
Commissioner Butler asked about the changes to Jubilee, and Mr. Franco
stated that they were considering changes to the back of the property and also
extensive landscaping since the bottom three levels were basements. Commissioner Houston asked if they had a
commitment to affordable housing, and Mr. Franco detailed the expense of the
project prohibited any consideration of affordable housing. Chairperson Thomas asked Mr. Franco to
hold discussions with the Belmont Street Assoc., and he agreed to do so. Commissioner Spalding indicated that he
was present at the HPRB for the initial review, and the Board was extremely
pleased with the project. Mr.
Franco was asked if he was seeking approval of the concept for the Board, and
Mr. Franco indicated that he was.
Commissioner Houston moved support of the design concept, and it was
seconded and adopted (7-1-0).
Derrick Woody of the Office of
Planning introduced the ongoing work on the Sand Filtration Site at the McMillan
Reservoir. Commissioner Esters
stated that this is just outside his single member district, but it would affect
his constituents, and Commissioner Guyot stated that it adjoined his smd as
well. This twenty-five acre site
was purchased by the city twenty-eight years ago, and previous efforts to
develop the site have failed. There
is now unsolicited interest in the site by large developers, and Office of
Planning has been working with developers to include issues raised through the
previous efforts to develop the site.
Public open space and preservation have both been identified as important
to the local constituency. A larger
community meeting will be held in September and Ward 1 constituents are invited
to participate. OP is hoping to
issue an RFP for the site by October, and have the Council act on the request by
the end of this year. A combination
of housing and retail is being considered as well as maintaining open public
space. Commissioner Guyot asked Mr.
Woody to involve all of the neighborhood associations near the proposed
site. Commissioner Spalding asked
if there was any current use of any portion of the identified site, or if the
parcel was now completely redundant.
Mr. Woody responded that the site is fully redundant at this time. Commissioner Esters asked for the
schedule of the public meetings, and whether the possible developers would be
present. Mr. Woody responded that
the meetings were public, and that he expected that developers would
attend. The meeting dates and the
RFP issue date are not set, but will be relayed to the Commission. Tony Norman indicated that he’s
concerned with the fast tracking of this RFP, and that communication with
constituency groups who have been involved with planning for this site has been
lacking. This is also a national
landmark, and NCPC has designated this site as a national treasure. Mr. Woody stated that planners have been
considering this site, in conjunction with the community, for the past
twenty-eight years, so the ‘fast track’ label may be exaggerated. A great deal of input has been received
by the District from constituency groups over this lengthy period, and all of
that input is being used to guide the current RFP. A representative from the Deputy Mayor’s
Office indicated that they are responding to an unsolicited proposal which has
reopened the possibility for development of the site.
Commissioner Hammonds introduced
BZA application for special exception regarding the back deck at 1207 Clifton
Street.
Pablo Martinez explained that they had received ANC1B approval for their
back deck in 2003, but had been turned down by the BZA. As part of a retroactive permit process
they have been allowed to modify the request and resubmit a proposal to modify
the existing deck. The current
design would shrink the current deck and result in a lot occupancy of 65.8%,
which is within the allowable guidelines for a special exception under the
zoning regulations. They have
sought and received the support of neighbors in this process, and they have
letters indicating that the new deck design would not have a negative impact on
the neighboring properties.
Commissioner Hammonds stated that she is aware of the new design, and
that neighbors have agreed to the modified design. Commissioner Hammonds moved support of
BZA Application 17208, and it was seconded. Commissioner Spalding indicated that he
had attended three BZA hearings with the previous application, and asked to make
a friendly amendment that the be designated to represent ANC1B before the BZA on
this application, and it was accepted by Commissioner Hammonds. Motion was adopted unanimously (8-0-0).
Commissioner Guyot introduced
Zoning Case 04-20 concerning Howard University’s interim use of 1840 7th
Street.
The proposed change is to allow temporary use to occupy and use the
building. Maybelle Bennett from
Howard
University indicated that
they purchased the building in 2002, and its original intended use was as a 125
bed nursing home. After purchasing
the building they have been trying to get the use restriction lifted since they
have no desire to use the property for a nursing home. They want to put faculty based research
into the building on a temporary basis, and in the longer outlook to get the
zoning changed to a commercial use.
This will be coordinated with the results that come out of the current
Uptown Destination District plans for surrounding properties. Cynthia Jordano, Land Use Counsel for
the University, stated that they have no intention of changing the campus
boundaries and that the current underlying zoning is residential. The process of changing the zoning takes
almost a year, and the University wants to get activity and use prior to the
zoning change. Commissioner Guyot
asked for the specific language of the zoning application, and Commissioner
Spalding indicated that the language was included in Commissioner’s packets, and
he read the application as printed by the Zoning Commission. Commissioner Spalding asked if
Commissioner Guyot would be willing to be designated ANC1B’s representative
before the September 9th zoning meeting, and Commissioner Guyot
stated that he would be proud to do so.
Commissioner Guyot moved support of Zoning Commission Case4 04-20, and
designation of Commissioner Guyot at ANC1B’s representative, and it was seconded
and adopted unanimously (9-0-0).
Ms. Bennett indicated that Dr.
Marshall Banks wanted to discuss the NYSP grant awarded this past summer. Dr. Bennett indicated that they were
thrilled with the $6,200 grant given to Howard to assist with the NYSP program,
which allowed them to give free physical examinations to their campers. The daily attendance was over 266
campers, the medical staff from the Howard University family to do the examinations,
and in exchange they asked if the monies could be used towards equipment that
they needed. From the grant they
spent a total of $300 on the medical exams, but they wanted in exchange to give
one laptop and one lcd projector to be purchased for the family health
center. That brings the total to
$4,034.94 spent leaving a balance of $2,165.01, which they are requesting that
fans be purchased for the gymnasium which does not have central air
conditioning. So, there are fans,
portable cd player, and a public address system that are needed. Commissioner Guyot stated that the
expenditure is totally consistent with our grant purposes and totally consistent
with the nature of the program.
Commissioner Guyot reminded Mr. Banks that he was very specific in
wanting the names, telephone numbers, and social security numbers of the
participating students.
Commissioner Spalding indicated that the Commission had voted on a very
specific grant for a very specific purpose, and that it would be in the interest
of the functioning of the Commission in its grant making that the unspent
amounts be returned to the Commission, and that a new grant request be submitted
for the new specifics outlined by Dr. Banks. Commissioner Guyot stated that he votes
to oppose that. The purpose is
totally consistent with our support of the NYSP program. Chairperson Thomas asked what
Commissioner Guyot was opposing, and Commissioner Guyot stated that he’s
supporting using the funds inside the NYSP program, and that he doesn’t go
against success when it works.
Chairperson Thomas asked if we had not strayed from the agenda in
discussing this grant, and asked Commissioner Spalding what his motion was. Commissioner Spalding indicated that it
was his suggestion, since Commissioner Guyot had already introduced a motion,
that the intent of the original grant was to provide physicals to children from
ANC1B in order to facilitate participation in the summer camp. That if there are monies that are
unspent towards this purpose, that the surplus funds be returned to ANC1B and
NYSP be urged to reapply for the new purposes. You had a very warm reception to the
original grant request, and I assume that you’ll have a warm reception to the
new request, however, when we give grant monies for a specific purpose the
applicant should use the money for that purpose and any excess should be
returned to the Commission. A new
use of ANC1B monies should be drafted in a separate grant application. Commissioner Esters requested that in
the reporting on the monies spent the addresses of the campers should be
included. Treasurer Esters agreed
that it would be more consistent to return the unspent funds and submit a new
grant request, and if we’re every audited this will consistent with our
minutes. Commissioner Skinner
indicated that ANC1B had been doing grants for a little while, and I’m not
saying this because we’ve got two Commissioners doing their first term, but
we’ve done plenty of things where we’ve been able to use our good common sense
and still apply the rules that we’ve had before us. Any time that we’ve got an organization
that’s doing such a good work for the quality of life of our community, that
comes before us with all the beautiful faces in the room, asking for a motion to
amend. We amend so many things; all
we’re asking is to amend this. For
us to say that they should go through the process of returning the money,
resubmit and come before us again is just not reasonable. We need to amend what we’ve put out
there based on their request, and if we choose not to then they’ll return the
money, but they’re asking to amend what they originally proposed. This has nothing to do with auditing, or
somehow usurping the authority that we’ve been given by the people who elected
us and the District of
Columbia.
We need to keep a level of common sense though, and these people’s time
we take it for granted and we need to work with these people who’ve presented to
us with an opportunity to amend our original grant proposal. Chairperson Thomas stated that she was
unaware that this request to speak would lead to this discussion, and that she
thought this was a presentation on behalf of what was funded. I agree with everyone, but there are
guidelines and procedures and I’d like for us to abide by them. Commissioner Thomas offered a motion to
table the request to our next meeting, and it was seconded and adopted
unanimously (9-0-0).
Commissioner Spalding introduced
a request from DDOT’s Public Space Department for comment on designs for
sidewalks and curb cuts for the Rhapsody development at 2120 Vermont
Avenue.
Jeremy Rubenstein explained that they are moving the current curb cut
from mid block down to the southern edge of their development. Entrance and exit will be achieved with
right hand turns only, which we determined to be a much safer design. Commissioner Spalding moved support of
the application to install new driveway, new sidewalk and gutter at 2120 Vermont Ave.,
and also that he be designated as ANC1B’s representative to the DDOT
hearing. Motion was seconded and
adopted unanimously (9-0-0).
Commissioner Houston introduced
renewal of Congressional Club’s liquor license, and moved support of the
renewal. Jan Rainbolt appeared to
represent the Congressional Club apologized to the Commission for missing the
meeting last month. Ms. Rainbolt
stated that they are a completely nonpartisan group, and listed the Democratic
members of the current Board of Directors.
Ms. Rainbolt also indicated that they are having the Black Caucus for
lunch on the 9th.
Commissioner Guyot stated that they would have been approved, but that
the explanation of their membership helps.
Chairperson Thomas stated that she wants to get to know the licensed
establishments and owners in our Commission territory. Ms. Rainbolt invited the Commissioners
to visit Congressional Club, and indicated that the Dupont Circle Citizens
Assoc. uses the Club, and that ANC1B could use the facility as well. Commissioner Skinner stated that we
should not take liquor licenses lightly.
Do you have any method of dealing with the issues surrounding liquor and
ABRA restrictions, and Ms. Rainbolt
responded that she has a manager’s license. At this point the Club has closed its
kitchen facility, and they don’t buy, sell or serve liquor. We have kept the license to allow
caterers to use the facility, and until the District of Columbia allows caterers to hold
licenses we’ll keep the license. If
caterers could hold licenses, then we would give ours up. Valet parking is required for any
function over seventy-five, and they do notify neighboring buildings of the
upcoming month’s events. Motion to
support the renewal was seconded and adopted unanimously (9-0-0).
Commissioner Spalding introduced
the reconsideration of Tena Café’s application for a CR license located at
1119 V
Street.
This has been before us twice before and at our June meeting we voted to
support the license, and at our July meeting we voted to reconsider and
additionally to take it up at our August meeting with an invitation to the
owners. Just prior to this meeting
ABRA held the initial hearing on this application, and there were seven
protesters of which four were allowed standing, and the other three were given
time to establish credentials for standing. Mr. Pappas and the applicants are
present. Maurice Evans stated that
he is representing the applicant, and agreed that Commissioner Spalding’s review
was correct with the exception that the applicant was awarded a stipulated
license by the ABRA Board. Due to
the allowed protesters the stipulated license has been suspended. The ABRA Board has given time for the
applicant to meet with protesters prior to the next meeting on Wednesday, August
11th. Mr. Evans stated
that he is still attempting to identify all of the protestants, and also
attempting to work with the multiple scheduling difficulties presented. The notification from the Board stated
that the protest involves an adverse effect on peace, order and quiet of the
neighborhood, and that there is an adverse affect on residential parking,
pedestrian and vehicular traffic in the neighborhood, and finally an adverse
affect on real property values in the neighborhood. I am familiar with the neighborhood
through my service as an investigator with the ABCC. This is a very simple restaurant that
seats approximately fifteen people.
The average age of the patrons of the restaurant is forty-five years
old. There is a little Bose stereo
system that puts out a little classical music, and it also puts out a little
tiny amount into the summer garden area in the rear. I just can’t see how this little bitty
restaurant is disruptive to a neighborhood. I ask that the ANC support the
reinstatement of the stipulated license, and ask that the protestors meet with
me as soon as possible.
Commissioner Wright asked if any of the protestors of the restaurant were
present, and nineteen members of the audience raised their hands. Commissioner Guyot asked to move three
things, and stated that I am the man who made the motion to reconsider. I am the person who got a commitment at
our last meeting that he would close the yard. This Commission has a chance to do
justice and it should do so.
Chairperson Thomas asked if it had not been agreed that the single member
district Commissioner offer the motion.
Commissioner Guyot stated that we’ve all heard Mr. Spalding, and Mr.
Spalding led the demonstration in protest and he has a right to do that. I think to balance this relationship I
should have some rights.
Chairperson Thomas stated that nobody was denying Commissioner Guyot’s
rights, but I would still like to hear from the SMD Commissioner, out of respect
if nothing else. Commissioner
Spalding indicated that he was under the impression that it was Commissioner
Wright who brought the motion for reconsideration at the July meeting, and
Commissioner Wright agreed.
Commissioner Guyot stated that he did not, I offered it, check the
minutes, and I offered the motion to reconsider. I know what I did you check the
minutes. Commissioner Spalding
stated that he has been to visit the site, he has met with the residential
neighbors. I have looked at what
the composition of the immediate neighborhood is, and what is proposed for the
immediate neighborhood. This
section of V
St. is now a residential street despite the
underlying zoning of Arts Overlay which does provide the opportunity to put in a
restaurant. Unfortunately for this
applicant he’s applying to put a commercial use into a solidly residential
neighborhood. I have talked to both
the names on the multiple protest petitions and other residential neighbors, and
I have not found anyone who supports this application as it has been
submitted. Half of the residents do
not approve of a restaurant in this location, nothing to do with the applicant,
but they do not support a restaurant in this residential context. The other half of the residents would
support a restaurant in this location, but only under the terms of a very
restrictive (hours, noise, parking) voluntary agreement. There will probably be six and possibly
seven protesters to this license, and I think it is in the best interest of this
ANC to participate in the process as one of the protesters rather than watch the
seven protesting groups attempt the negotiations. My motion is that ANC1B protest Tena
Café’s application for a CR license as well as the stipulated license. Chairperson Thomas indicated that on
page eight of the July minutes Commissioner Wright is identified as offering the
motion to reconsider. Commissioner
Guyot stated that the minutes are wrong, and I made the motion and I stand on
that. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Esters. Commissioner
Guyot stated that this is a site that does not serve twenty-five people, this is
a site that this Commission voted to support, and this is a site that did
everything that we asked him to do.
We said please close the yard and he did not hesitate, he said yes. This is a site that has had no
violations by ABRA. Our function is
not to become an appendage of the police department. Our function is to deal with applicants
pure and simple and not as a group of based on any of their
characteristics. Here’s an
applicant who’s obeyed the law. I
move that we support the stipulated license, and then I will move that we oppose
as a Commission any and all attacks on this license. Commissioner Skinner asked the applicant
how many people the restaurant serves, and applicant responded fifteen. Commissioner Skinner asked how long they
have been in business, and applicant responded six months. With all due respect I think as a
Commission we uphold laws. Somebody
might not like somebody, somebody might like somebody else, but I think based on
what we’re charged to do is to evaluate this guy based on the law not based how
people feel about it. Some people
might want to open up a gay club next to me, and I might not like gay folks, but
you know what they’ve got the right to be there. Somebody might open up a black club, and
you might not like black folks, but that’s no reason… People’s issues related to
gender, race, sexual orientation, if a person’s an immigrant or not, we
shouldn’t be using that to decide.
I think we’ve seen a lot more things thrown in here than just is this
person going to run a reputable and a law abiding establishment. Thank God it’s America. Chairperson Thomas asked if there could
be representative spokespeople for the protesters present and three were
identified. Sean Steffy,
1223 V St.,
stated that his neighbors are here and represent different races, different
orientations, different genders, different occupations, but we’re all coming
together before our ANC and we want you to listen to our concerns. We’re very concerned about a liquor
licensed restaurant on our residential street being open till 2AM on weeknights
and 3AM on weekends. We’re very
concerned about the potential trash problem and how that will be met. We’re very concerned about the outside
patio in the back which abuts both V and 12th Streets. We have had an opportunity to meet with
the owner, and he is genuinely a nice person and I have no doubt he can run a
good business, and I would love to have him as my neighbor, and I would love to
go to his restaurant if it were on U Street or 14th Street, but V
Street is a residential street. It
is a small one way street where we all live, and where we all get our rest at
night, and even though this is a small establishment we’re all concerned with
how this is going to affect the character of V Street. We also moved to this area to enjoy the
diversity that is represented by this neighborhood. We have gone out of our way to patronize
the Ben’s or Cravings instead of Quisnos.
We avoid Starbucks and go over to Sparky’s Café. We willingly patronize the businesses
located on U and 14th Streets, but we’re concerned with this
restaurant that’s located in an area that is becoming more residential. Stewart Bunn stated that this
application has generated an overwhelming outcry from local residents, and they
are speaking out against having this license in a residential area. This has nothing to do with race or gay
issues; it’s simply a protest against having a liquor licensed establishment in
such a dense residential district.
The new neighbors are attracted to this community by the proximity of
commercial choices on the commercial corridors. Issuance of a liquor license changes the
perception of the restaurant and its history, which has been without a liquor
license. I ask my Commissioner Ms.
Thomas to oppose this application, and Commissioner Spalding in whose district
the restaurant is located to oppose this application, and I ask the other
Commissioners to honor and respect the Commissioners who represent this
neighborhood and vote in opposition to this license request. Joyce Day, 2107 12th
St., and my property abuts
their property in the back yards. I
would concur that this owner has been more considerate than previous owners, but
I still have to get up in the morning, and there is a noise problem due to the
courtyard in the back. There’s just
five feet between my bedroom window and the courtyard behind their restaurant,
and music has been piped out there.
The requested 2AM and 3AM closing times are what have many of us very
concerned. We have to get up in the
morning and go to work. Another
concern is their trash disposal.
The current method of trash disposal is a lady who comes around and she
takes the trash can from out back, and she hauls it down by my house. She goes around the block to
11th and W and she proceeds to dump the trash in the public
receptacles. If there’s not enough
room at this location she takes it further down the block. I have followed her and talked with her
and asked if the applicant knows what she’s doing with the trash, and she
responds that yes they know, but I’m just helping them out. There has never been a trash removal
contract for this business, and the present situation is just not
acceptable. Chairperson Thomas
indicated that there was a motion on the table to oppose the application. Commissioner Guyot stated that it failed
for not having a second.
Chairperson Thomas stated that it had received a second, and Commissioner
Guyot moved that we defeat it.
Motion to oppose was called and failed on a vote of (2-4-3). Commissioner Guyot moved that we support
the provisional license, the stipulated license, after which I will offer a
motion that we vote to oppose the opposition to the license. A community member asked if there could
be a stipulated license in the context of the four to seven protesters to the
application, Commissioner Guyot responded that yes there can be a stipulated
license, but it can only be determined by the ABRA Board, and what they will
look at is how conciliatory and whether or not there’s mutual reconciliation
between the two groups. Motion to
support the stipulated license for Tena Café passed on a vote of (6-1-2). Commissioner Guyot moved that ANC1B vote
to officially oppose any and all challenges to this applicant, and it was
seconded. Commissioner Spalding
stated that this was an official opposition to his constituents airing their
voice in front of ABRA, and I just don’t think that such a motion is called for
or shows any consideration for my constituents. You can vote for this motion, but my
constituents should be allowed to go to ABRA and make their voices heard. This is certainly a controversial
application for a licensed establishment in a residential zone, and I can
understand other Commissioners deciding to listen to their own voices rather
than the neighbors gathered here, but why should the Commission vote to oppose
my constituents? Commissioner Guyot
stated that the ABRA Board has never in its history given a single member
district power as it relates to how it analyzes an application, the only power
resides with the Commission. This
Commission will not interfere with the present protestants, and this application
is represented by a man who is experienced many years in ABRA. He has committed himself to
negotiations, and all my motion says is that we’re not voting against anyone,
we’re voting for a principle that says we as a Commission feel that this
gentleman who has obeyed all the laws should not be challenged. Commissioner Skinner stated that he
talks about how people are treated differently on the basis of race, gender,
sexual orientation and all the rest we often have someone like the Congressional
Club who come in here who have a bunch of Congress people willing to say
anything, they could have all kinds of things but nobody follows them to the
trash can. I don’t know how they
dispose of their trash because no one has taken the time to find out and that’s
fine. It’s the prerogative of
anybody to investigate anybody’s trash, and if anybody’s breaking that law they
should be penalized. As a neighbor
who’s trying to provide an opportunity for his family he shouldn’t encroach on
anybody else, just as much as you working late at night and driving home late
shouldn’t be disturbing your neighbors within reason. But it just seems like all the words
like character of V Street, and I know what euphemisms are and I’ve seen them
used a lot of places, when people start talking about those intangible keeping
the characteristics. OK, so my
point is looking at the real substance of the issue is the trash disposal, 2AM,
and the noise, and those seem like reasonable issues that can be agreed upon
without prohibiting this person who’s already operating a restaurant to also be
able to serve some beer and wine.
It just seems like when you say you oppose this person’s liquor license
and oppose his restaurant you’re going beyond just saying that I want a good
neighbor, you’re saying that I should be able to dictate what this person does
with his livelihood. As long as
they are abiding by the law, and being a good neighbor which means not having
some old lady dumping trash illegally, they should be corrected and get an
opportunity to work. And if you’ve
got a noisy neighbor, that neighbor should be addressed whether it’s a
restaurant or just some with some loud funkstead. This all or nothing thing is not the
direction that we’ve spent a lot of time on U Street building this harmony that’s not
like Adams Morgan and being like a community doing all kinds of ungodly things
in our neighborhood, and I’m just saying we’ve got to be able to manage all of
this without trying to exclude people.
Chairperson Thomas stated that people have the right, I don’t care where
you live or where you come from, and people have the right to voice their
opinion. They have a right to feel
the way the way they do. I don’t
feel that we should hinder anyone from the chance to speak their minds or
express their opinions. In that
note I will be opposing your last motion in opposing their protest. We now have a motion to support the
stipulated license, and I think the ABRA Board should take it from there. We have an obligation to our
constituents to take a stand in favor or against, but let’s make those votes and
move forward. I’m not willing to
sit here for another hour listening to personal opinions. Commissioner Guyot said that he would be
the last person on earth to deny their right to protest, and I’ve supported
their right to protest. This motion
simply says that we as a Commission are doing what’s responsible in saying that
we oppose the protest. ABRA always
asks what’s the position of the ANC, and I’m respectfully submitting, without
interfering with anyone’s right to protest, but I support my motion. Motion for the Commission to oppose all
attacks on this license was seconded and adopted on a vote of (5-3-1).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license by Delicatessen Judy at 2212 14th St. was introduced by
Commissioner Thomas. Representative
from ownership was not present.
Chairperson Thomas stated that the neighbors have been working with Mr.
Lopez for some time, and there have been no complaints. Community meetings have been hosted
there. Chairperson Thomas moved
support of renewal of this license, and it was seconded and adopted unanimously
(9-0-0).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license by Madjet Restaurant at 1102 U Street was introduced by
Commissioner Spalding. Commissioner
Spalding indicated that this is an Ethiopian restaurant right down the block,
and that there have been no complaints voiced. The owner stated that they have owned
and run the restaurant since 1998, and they have no ABRA violations. Commissioner Spalding moved support of
renewal of the CR license for Madjet, and it was seconded and adopted (9-0-0).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license by Zula Restaurant at 1933 9th Street was introduced
by Commissioner Guyot. Commissioner
Guyot stated that Zula serves excellent food, and to his knowledge there have
been no ABRA violations, and he moved support for the renewal of the CR license
for Zula, and it was seconded and adopted (7-0-1).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license by Dukem Ethiopian Market and Restaurant located at 1114-1118 U
Street.
Commissioner Spalding stated that there have been some small problems
with Dukem, but that the owners were proactive in working with community members
to solve the problems. Owners of
the restaurant were present and stated that they have been here in business for
seven years, and that the noise complaints have been successfully
addressed. Commissioner Spalding
moved support of renewal of the CR license for Dukem, and it was seconded and
adopted (8-0-0).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license by Mangos located at 2017 14th Street. No one was present from Mangos ownership
to address the application.
Commissioner Spalding stated that he does not know a great deal about
Mangos, and he’s had a hard time finding the business open. Commissioner Guyot stated that he had
not heard any complaints about Mangos.
Chairperson Thomas indicated that they used to do poetry readings, and
said that they’re not open on a regular basis. They seem to open in spurts, and
sometimes do wedding receptions, but have never presented any troubles. Commissioner Spalding indicated that he
had posted this renewal on the U
Street list serve asking for any comments, but had
received no feedback at all.
Commissioner Spalding moved support of renewal of the CR license for
Mangos, and it was seconded and adopted (7-0-1).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license for Gojo Cottage Café located at 1322 U Street was introduced by
Commissioner Spalding. Commissioner
Spalding stated that they had removed the blinds from the façade windows; they
have been experimenting with menu changes.
There was one problem with noise that was interfering with neighboring
commercial businesses, but this had been addressed by the restaurant’s
ownership. One of the owners was
present and stated that they are experimenting with both food and entertainment,
and currently are hosting an exhibit of Ethiopian artists. Commissioner Spalding moved support for
renewal of the CR license for Gojo Cottage Café, and it was seconded and adopted
unanimously (9-0-0).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license for Expo Restaurant located at 1928 9th Street. Commissioner Spalding asked if
representatives of Expo were present, and they were not. Commissioner Spalding stated that he
does not know a great deal about Expo, but had asked for comments from the
community, and no negative sentiments were expressed. Commissioner Guyot stated that the food
is excellent, and that they had no ABRA violations. The owners are very involved in the
local politics of the neighborhood, and everyone should try out the food at this
restaurant. Commissioner Spalding
moved support of renewal of the CR license for Expo Restaurant, and it was
seconded and adopted (7-0-1).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license for DC Finest located at 900 U Street was introduced by Commissioner
Spalding. Owners of DC Finest were
not present to answer questions.
Commissioner Spalding stated that he posted this renewal on the
U Street
list serve and got no response, and he has heard a number of rumors but all are
unsubstantiated, and no specific complaints are known. Commissioner Spalding moved support of
renewal of a CR license for DC Finest, and it was seconded and adopted (6-0-1).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license for El Camino Real located at 1833 14th Street was introduced
by Commissioner Spalding.
Commissioner Spalding indicated that there have been problems with this
license holder. They did violate
their Public Space Permit, but that has been corrected. There are also ongoing complaints about
late night noise, and these are being worked on. Commissioner Spalding moved support of
the renewal of a CR license for El Camino Real, and it was seconded. Chairperson Thomas asked why the owners
were choosing not to appear before the Commission. Commissioner Esters stated that if we
keep voting for them, they’ll have no reason to show up. Last month we had the Congressional Club
not appear and we tabled it, and this month they showed up. This is why I’ve abstained from these
votes when the owners haven’t decided to show up. As Commissioner Spalding just stated
“they’re willing to work with us” then why don’t they show up? Showing up at these meetings should be
an indication of their willingness to work with this Commission. Chairperson Thomas stated that she likes
to see the owner’s faces at these meetings in order to better know them when
problems do arise. Commissioner
Guyot stated that as the person who worked to change the rule that prevented the
Commission from dealing with absent owners, we found ourselves in some very
peculiar circumstances. There was a
unanimous vote of the Commission that we would deal with applicants on the
merits. Commissioner Spalding
agreed that he desperately wants the owners to appear, however, the difficulty
lies in the response of the ABRA Board.
In the past when we have tabled an application the ABRA Board has
concluded that we have no interest in supporting or opposing an application, and
essentially our letter gets filed in the trash. If we do not either support or protest a
license our Commission’s great weight is being tossed out the window. Commissioner Esters responded that if
the owners do not show up he will not vote to support their application. Chairperson Thomas asked if we’re making
an effort to get the owners to these meetings, and Commissioner Guyot responded
that he encourages each owner to show up, and Commissioner Spalding indicated
that each owner is mailed a letter with the agenda. Motion to support the renewal of CR
license for El Camino Real was adopted (7-0-2).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CX (Club) license for Columbia Lodge #85 located at 1844-1846 3rd
Street was introduced by Commissioner Guyot. Warren Johnson Jr. past exalted ruler of
the Lodge represented the Lodge.
Mr. Johnson gave a history of the Lodge. They do have entertainment, and do
provide security for events. They
have been working with the three DJ’s to keep the volume down, and also have
been working to keep the parking lot and nearby streets clean. We are currently closing down before
2:30AM on Friday and Saturday. Part
of our duty as Elk’s is to listen to the concerns of the community and respond
to those concerns. Commissioner
Guyot indicated that he was going to support the renewal, but that he had three
concerns voiced by his constituents.
First is that you should always be keeping that street clean, and not
just in front of your building.
Second the noise has to be dealt with and I want you to go back to the
Lodge and tell them that this is a concern they have to deal with. Myla Moss, President of the
LeDroit Park Civic Assoc., stated that the Lodge has been an
integral part of the LeDroit Park community, and thanked them for their
help with community days. Ms. Moss
reiterated the concern of the LeDroit Park citizens with the noise generated on
Friday and Saturday nights. There
have also been a number of reports of violence or scuffling outside the
establishment on these nights.
There is also a concern with the impact on residential parking on these
nights. We’d like these issues
addressed, and have had trouble in getting the Lodge’s officers to attend our
LPCA meetings to address these concerns.
Commissioner Guyot moved support for renewal of the CX license for
Columbia Lodge #85, and it was seconded and adopted (9-0-0).
ABRA application for renewal of
CR license for Café St. Ex located at 1847 14th Street was introduced
by Commissioner Spalding. This has
been a huge hit in the neighborhood, and John Snellgrove was present to
represent the restaurant. Mr.
Snellgrove stated that the actual ownership name is not Mac Market, but St. Ex
Group LLC. Mr. Snellgrove reported
that they have had no complaints with ABRA, and they are attempting to institute
lunch service on a regular basis.
Commissioner Guyot mentioned that every day he passes on the bus, and
every day it is packed.
Commissioner Spalding congratulated them for exploring the luncheon
service, which is sorely needed in the community. Commissioner Spalding moved support of
renewal of a CR license for Café St. Ex, and it was seconded and adopted
unanimously (9-0-0).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license for Kuna located at 1324 U Street was introduced by
Commissioner Spalding. Commissioner
Spalding noted that the business name as reported by ABRA is Spaghetti House,
and stated that ABRA does sometimes have difficulty in getting the ownership and
business names correct. This
terrific restaurant has been open two years, and the only complaint from
constituents is that they have a hard time getting a reservation. Commissioner Guyot mentioned that he
understands why Commissioner Spalding is biased in regard to this application,
and was prepared to second the motion.
Commissioner Spalding moved support for renewal of the CR license for
Kuna, and it was seconded and adopted (8-0-1).
ABRA application for a new CR
license for Mezgebu Gebeyehu t/a Enkutatash Ethiopian Restaurant to be located
at 1909 9th
Street was introduced by Commissioner Guyot and the
owner was present. Commissioner
Guyot stated that this has a history with ANC1B. When Glen
Melcher was chairman of this group we agreed that we would go
and oppose Mr. Jackson’s move to make 1909 and two adjoining properties
commercial. Our ANC voted
unanimously to do that, and we went before the BZA and we lost everything we
went up there with. This is deemed
commercial, and I consulted with my expert Mr. Norman Woods who certified that
question for me. I know the place
and I support it. Mr. Gebeyehu
introduced a document from the Zoning Commission indicated a change from R4 to
C2B dated April 12, 1999.
Commissioner Guyot moved support for a new CR license for Enkutatash
Ethiopian Restaurant, and it was seconded.
Commissioner Spalding indicated that he had problems with the
application. He did check with the
Office of Zoning and they stated that this is still R4 residentially zoned. I also checked with the Zoning
Administrator’s Office on the use code, and they responded that it is still
residential. I checked with the
Office of Tax and Revenue and they responded that this is in their records as a
residential property currently receiving the ‘Homestead’ deduction. I checked with DCRA and they stated that
in March of 2002 they issued a certificate of occupancy for a hair salon at this
location, and they also reported that they issued a certificate of occupancy for
a restaurant in March of 2004. When
asked if they had checked with the Office of Zoning, DCRA indicated that they
would do so, and when they had done so they reported that Zoning had confirmed
the location as residentially zoned and not compatible with the certificates of
occupancy. To my knowledge this is
still R4, and to my knowledge this is still a use code 11, and a restaurant
would present an inappropriate use of this building. I do not have any knowledge of the owner
or business plan for this restaurant; however, I do have enormous concern with
siting a restaurant in residential zoning and with residential use codes. I have received confirming reports from
all of the District’s agencies, and I will not be able to support this
application. Commissioner Guyot
stated that he vigorously supports the application, and that he fought the case
before BZA. There is no ambiguity
here; it’s shown in the Zoning Commission order. Even more important, I checked with
Norman Woods, and I had him research this, and I will bet my life and my
reputation on his expertise in zoning.
Chairperson Thomas asked which question we were voting on, the zoning or
the liquor license. Commissioner
Guyot responded that if it were indeed residential zoning we would have a
problem, but it has been shown to be commercial. Motion to support the new CR license for
Enkutatash was adopted on a vote of (7-1-0).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license for Joe Greene Bar & Lounge located at 917 U Street was
introduced by Commissioner Spalding, and ownership was not present to answer
questions. Commissioner Spalding
reported that they had recently received a great write up in one of the local
newspapers, and there was no negative response to a list serve appeal for
comments. There are no known ABRA
violations. Commissioner Spalding
moved support of renewal of the CR license for Joe Greene Bar & Lounge, and
it was seconded and adopted on a vote of (6-0-1).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license for Roha Restaurant located at 1212 U Street was introduced by
Commissioner Spalding, and owners were not present to answer questions. Commissioner Spalding suggested that
this application should be tabled.
This is a good restaurant; however, they have recently had two ABRA
violations in the past few months.
If a restaurant is experiencing this kind of difficulty, then they should
be attending to answer to the community.
If in addressing our letter to ABRA we mention the two violations, one of
which was for a fight and one for an underage drinker, it would be my hope that
they would consider this in our asking for more time for consideration. Commissioner Spalding moved to table the
application, and it was seconded.
Commissioner Guyot stated that a motion to table does not produce a
letter to the Board. Commissioner
Spalding responded that when we table a request, the letter does include the
discussion that led the Commission to table the request. Commissioner Guyot stated that he wanted
to balance the letter, and he was present for the hearing before ABRA on the
underage case. They have been
judged and paid their fine, and the motion to table means a motion to table. If
we’re going to table and write a letter, then we’re not really tabling. To table means to take no position. Now if we write a letter that says just
that we decided to table this, then I’m all for that, but I’m certainly not for
a letter saying that we decided to table and my god they’re criminals. I don’t think we got the votes to say
they’re criminals, so why should we say it. Commissioner Spalding responded that
this led back to Commissioner Esters’ concerns. The ABRA hearing on this application
will happen prior to our September meeting and if I send a letter to ABRA that
says we tabled the application they will throw it in the waste paper
basket. This goes back to your work
to get the Commission to consider applications when the owners did not appear
before the Commission. And when the
Commission has concerns about an application, and I’m certainly not calling
anyone a criminal, just that the concerns of the Commission led to our tabling
the request. The letter is our
chance to say that we have concerns and that we need time to meet with the
owners, and is requesting that the Board move the hearing date forward so the
Commission can attempt to get the owners to come and address our concerns. Commissioner Guyot responded that our
policy as a Commission, and we voted on it, is that you don’t have to be present
to be voted on, so why should we use their absence against them? If you want to say that we’re concerned
and we want to table it to consider those violations, I’m for that. But not that though they weren’t here
and you use that against them, and what if they ask about the other owners who
weren’t here. The last thing I want
us to do is use absence or presence as our policy, and we can’t attack someone
for acting under our policy.
Commissioner Spalding withdrew his motion to table. This, however, puts us in the position
of either voting to support or protest the application. The ABRA Board does not gives us great
weight if we don’t send a letter, and it’s been our experience that they have
not given us great weight if we do not make a solid case for delaying a
hearing. Commissioner Skinner
responded that if the Secretary writes a letter based on our vote that’s one
thing, but to add anecdotal information beyond a tabling is a tabling, and I
didn’t like so and so. We should
just write what’s in the minutes, that we agreed, or supported or tabled and
that’s all. All the anecdotal stuff
just doesn’t have a place in the letter.
Commissioner Guyot offered a compromise, that we tell the Board that we
take note of the fact that there have been two ABRA violations. Commissioner Spalding offered a motion
to support renewal of the CR license for Roha Restaurant, and it was seconded
and adopted (5-1-2).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license for Islander Caribbean Restaurant located at 1201 U Street was
introduced by Commissioner Spalding, and owners were not present to address the
Commission. Commissioner Spalding stated that Islander has been in the community
for some time, and they have been good participants in community events and
organizations. There have been no
complaints about this restaurant, and Commissioner Spalding moved support of
renewal of the CR license for the Islander Caribbean Restaurant, and it was
seconded and adopted (7-0-1).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CX (multipurpose facility) license for the Lincoln Theatre located at
1215 U
Street was introduced by Commissioner Spalding, and
representatives of the Lincoln were not present to speak to the
Commission. This is a fine historic
venue in our community, and there are no known complaints about their
operations, and I move support for renewal of the CX license for the Lincoln
Theatre, and it was seconded and adopted (7-0-2).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license for U Turn located at 1942 11th Street was introduced
by Commissioner Spalding, and owners were present to answer the Commissions
questions. Commissioner Spalding
explained that there had been an extensive discussion of this applicant when
they appeared before the Commission this year to change to a CT, extend their
hours, and expand their capacity.
This change was approved by the Commission; however, the hearing on the
changes will occur after the current restaurant license expires, so they need to
renew the CR pending the change to the CT license. Owners confirmed that this was the
reason for appearing again so quickly.
Owners also explained that they are progressing with the work on the
interior, and hope to soon open the ground floor. Commissioner Spalding commented that he
had noticed that the newspapers had been removed from the windows and had been
replaced with blinds, and that a menu was posted in the window, and thanked the
owners for these changes. The
community was very concerned with the application for the substantial changes;
however, they are not concerned with the continued licensing as a
restaurant. Commissioner Spalding
moved support for the renewal of the CR license for U Turn, and it was seconded
and adopted unanimously (9-0-0).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license for La Casona located at 1940 11th Street was introduced
by Commissioner Spalding, and owners were not present to answer Commission
questions. La Casona is a new
Salvadorian restaurant that has been quite popular. They have had an ABRA violation, and
they do appear to have taken steps to insure that it doesn’t happen again. The management has been willing to work
with the community, and Commissioner Spalding moved to support the renewal of a
CR license for La Casona, and it was seconded and adopted on a vote of (7-0-1).
ABRA application for renewal of
a CR license for F & Z Enterprises located at 2210 14th
Street was introduced by Chairperson Thomas, and
owners were not present to answer Commission questions. Chairperson Thomas said that they have
been very quiet, and she does not see many people going in or out of the
restaurant. We have the Florida
Avenue Watch right there, and if there had been any problems we all would have
heard about it. Chairperson Thomas
moved support for the renewal of a CR license for F & Z Enterprises, and it
was seconded and adopted (8-0-1).
Commissioner Guyot proposed
motion opposing the protest by ANC2B of Coach & Four’s renewal of their
liquor license was considered.
Chairperson Thomas stated that as the SMD Commissioner in whose territory
this license was located, she was not aware of a protest. Commissioner Guyot stated that two of
the Commissioner’s with ANC2B stated that they were moving to protest the
license of Coach & Four. Have they acted as of yet, no. Counsel for the licensee said that that
was correct. Commissioner Spalding
read a letter indicating that ANC2B had indeed voted (8-0-0) to oppose the
renewal of Coach & Four’s license.
Chairperson Thomas asked why she was just learning about this protest,
and Commissioner Spalding indicated that he had received the letter just this
afternoon, and was too busy getting ready for the meeting to do anything with
it. Commissioner Guyot thanked the
Secretary for reading the letter into the record. Ramon Estrada led the fight to close the
Cada Vez, and he is now a Commissioner in 2B. He has a right to be a zealot advocate,
and I don’t attack him for that.
When you live in a land where there’s the rule of law, and the Coach
& Four has been before us four times this year, and we voted to support this
license. We have jurisdiction in
this because they’re right across the street from us. All I’m asking us to do is to send a
message to ABRA that says, we know them, we’ve worked with them. I ask that we take a position that says
ANC1B opposes the protest by ANC2B
of Coach & Four’s CR renewal, and that’s my motion. Commissioner Spalding commented that
there’s a reduction ad absurdum here.
We voted on a license in ANC2B’s jurisdiction, and now they have voted on
a license that’s in our jurisdiction.
I fail to understand why we need to oppose their opposition, isn’t our
vote of support enough? Taking
endless votes on these licenses only confuses the issue. Commissioner Guyot stated that Mr.
Spalding was quoted in one of the local newspapers as saying that the difference
between 1B and 2B is that 2B has a lot of voluntary agreements and 1B has
none. My concern is this, that the
Court of Appeals grants us jurisdiction.
The Court of Appeals has decided that when you’re in the proximate area
of a place that has an interest there’s no question of jurisdiction. All I’m simply saying is that this is
not tit for tat. This is about
establishing very clearly that we see no justification, as a Commission, in a
protest filed by a colleague Commission of ours. We have a right to do it, and I suggest
we have a responsibility to do it.
Commissioner Skinner noted that Cada Vez is different since it was
located in our Commission, and we’re the ones who supported its initial
license. 2B has never had a
relationship with Coach & Four.
Commissioner Skinner said that Mr. Spalding lied when he was quoted as
saying that we don’t have voluntary agreements, and they must have misquoted
you. We’ve been one of the
architects as Commissions to deal with nightlife and to do it well without the
same ramifications in the community like Georgetown and Adams Morgan. So I would say that we’re really leaders
in how to deal with this nightlife as opposed to the Dupont Circle
crowd. Commissioner Spalding
responded that he is the official keeper of the records, and he has no voluntary
agreements in the files, and if I don’t have any I’m not sure how I would know
of any. Mr. Parker from the Coach
& Four stated that Commissioners Estrada and Halligan from 2B visited with
him at the restaurant after an ANC1B meeting, and they stated that Coach &
Four needed to have a voluntary agreement, and I disagreed with them. Motion that ANC1B opposes the protest of
ANC2B of Levelle, Inc.’s CR renewal was seconded and adopted (8-1-0).
Commissioner Guyot introduced a
review of the status hearing in regard to Cada Vez’s ABRA application. Owners of Cada Vez explained that the
ABRA Board is considering whether the changes discussed at an earlier ANC1B
meeting represent substantial changes requiring replacarding. The Board also is considering the
possible change to include Hip Hop or Rock music as a part of the substantial
change. Chairperson Thomas asked if
it were normal for the Board to consider changes in music as substantial, and
Commissioner Guyot stated that it is not unusual but that it does not represent
a substantial change. Commissioner
Butler stated that he has no trouble with Hip Hop music, however, there have
been problems with the crowd attending events featuring Hip Hop music. I don’t think that Cada Vez should be
appealing to teenagers with Hip Hop music.
Owner responded that their clientele was 25 years and older, and
Commissioner Butler asked how they knew, and owner responded that patrons were
carded. Commissioner Esters asked
how many of the nearby clubs feature Hip Hop, and owner stated that most of them
advertise as having Hip Hop music.
Chairperson Thomas asked to speak personally and not for the Commission,
and that she finds the protest of these licenses vindictive. Commissioner Guyot moved that ANC1B
report to the ABRA Board that we support and recommend that they give careful
consideration to the Cada Vez trading as Cada Vez presentation as given to us
this evening and that we stipulate in the letter that we support them vigorously
and we urge the Board to do so, and it was seconded and adopted on a vote of
(8-0-1).
The Commission reconsidered the
Georgia Avenue Day financial request tabled at our July meeting. Commissioner Skinner stated that Georgia
Avenue Days is coming up, and that permission has been secured from the
Department of Recreation, and we have Willie Doggitt applying for a grant to
address the issues of the school supplies drive as well as the health fair and
DC Agency information booth that will be present asking for our support. Commissioner Spalding stated that he had
placed this on the agenda as the tabled request for sponsorship of the Georgia
Ave. Days and the fee for the use of Banneker Field, and Chairperson Thomas
indicated that that was also her understanding. Commissioner Skinner stated that he
wanted to use the agenda item for the grant application that he described. Chairperson Thomas indicated that she
was still confused. Treasurer
Esters asked if this was the same request as that tabled last month, and
Commissioner Skinner said that no, they are pursuing the waiving of the fees for
the field. We are asking for a
grant for the same event as brought up last meeting to pay for school supplies,
tents, tables, portable toilets.
Chairperson Thomas stated that this is a different grant request. Commissioner Spalding requested that
submission of this type of substantial change be submitted well in advance of
the meeting so the Commissioners would have ‘a clue’ when the issue is raised
before the Commission. Commissioner
Skinner responded that we can make it really simple, it’s Georgia Avenue
Day. There will still be expenses
to be met with Georgia Avenue Day, and we’re just changing the things we’re
asking for. It’s in the same
context, it’s for the same event, and it’s the same thing. Chairperson Thomas stated that she is
going to repeat for the fifteenth time, there are rules, regulations and
procedures. What was on the agenda
was what we had discussed last month, which was the sponsorship and the cost of
the field. Commissioner Skinner
stated that that is not true. The
last meeting we asked for a co sponsorship, and at no time did I say I wanted a
grant. Chairperson Thomas stated
that she’s looking at the agenda and under our Grant Applications there’s an
entry for Georgia Avenue Day, and that this is a continuation of what we
discussed last month, and now we have a grant application that you’ve supplied
this evening. Commissioner Skinner
responded that yes it’s different.
Chairperson Thomas asked if we could take off the table the previous
discussion of the co sponsorship and the fees for the field, and Commissioner
Skinner agreed. Commissioner
Spalding asked what the agenda item “grant from dc jpd ppk cam” was, and if it
was related. Commissioner Skinner
stated that it’s something different, and they’re not here. Chairperson Thomas stated, ok, so we’re
not dealing with the previously tabled Georgia Ave. Day request, instead we’re
dealing with this new grant application.
Treasurer Esters stated that the
previous request could have cost as much as $15,000 for the co sponsorship. Will you be coming back with that
request, or is that completely gone?
Commissioner Skinner stated that it is completely gone, and we’re
finished with that one. Chairperson
Thomas asked if the sense of the new grant request was that the Lower Georgia
Ave. Business Development Corp. was asking for $7,350 for school supplies,
community information and health fair?
Commissioner Skinner indicated that was correct. Commissioner Esters asked why if the
intent of the grant was school supplies was the budget for school supplies such
a small portion of the request, and how many children will this serve. I’d much rather see our monies going to
school supplies than the other items listed. Commissioner Skinner indicated that 250
students would be helped by the $1,875 budgeted for the school supplies. We’re soliciting businesses to donate,
but we’re using the funds from the Commission to assure at least a minimum
amount of supplies, and the donations from the community may fall woefully
short. The reason for the high
overhead is to assure the quality of the event, rather than just having a bunch
of boxes with school supplies and hoping someone finds them. Commissioner Esters asked how they could
determine whether the supplies were going to children from 1B, and Commissioner
Skinner responded that he was
willing to do whatever was necessary to turn away students from the school
supplies if they weren’t from 1B.
Commissioner Esters repeated his question on how to assure that 1B’s
monies for these school supplies would end up benefiting children from 1B, and
Commissioner Skinner responded that through the outreach to our communities
we’ll assure that we’ll have more than our share of neighborhood kids in
attendance. I would be willing to
do what we can to assure this.
Commissioner Esters again requested that for auditing purposes we need to
have some identifiable measure of finding out who the kids are so that we have
verifiable proof and that we are serving our constituents. Commissioner Skinner stated that
Commissioner Esters might not have been on the Commission, but the items
included in the budget are things that have been funded by ANC1B in the past and
have survived scrutiny by the auditor.
Chairperson Thomas requested that they abide by the same rules as
previously stipulated for the NYSP program, that means getting names, addresses
and social security numbers.
Commissioner Guyot stated that human psychology does not work like
that. If we say to kids that toys
are available, they’re not going to have any consideration for what SMD they’re
from. Let’s go to the schools and
give the kids a chip or something and those are the kids that get toys. Chairperson Thomas stated that the grant
had to be such that it can be verified that the school supplies are going to 1B
kids, and how you manage that is your challenge. Commissioner Guyot stated that he hoped
we could leave here with the understanding that there wouldn’t be a general
distribution of toys. Chairperson
Thomas asked if the other budgeted items could be funded e.g. tents, tables,
chairs, diesel generators and portable toilets, and Commissioner Skinner stated
that these are the things that we can fund. Commissioner Butler asked about the 25
portable toilets around Banneker Field and if they were all necessary, and Mr.
Doggitt responded that DCRA had specified the number of portable toilets that
were needed for the projected attendance.
Commissioner Skinner stated that we can’t have people tired of waiting in
lines and doing public urination.
Commissioner Guyot added that portable toilets are fungible, and that we
should move the allotment in the budget from toilets to school supplies. I think the major thrust in this is that
we are funding school supplies.
Commissioner Skinner stated that we’ve supported portapotties in the past
and it makes sure that when people are in our community they use the
toilet. Chairperson Thomas
indicated that there was more support for school supplies than portapotties, and
Commissioner Skinner stated, ok, let’s put the money in school supplies. Treasurer Esters commented that the
$7,350 is equivalent to a quarter of our annual allotment. Chairperson Thomas asked if we had made
an amendment about the size of grants, and Commissioner Guyot responded that we
had not. Commissioner Spalding
responded that it was not a written rule, but rather a guideline suggested by
Commissioner Glover. And that the
intention was that grants over $3,000 get special scrutiny by the
Commission. I will follow the
advice of our former Treasurer, and this grant is over $3,000 and we received it
at the meeting tonight with no time for review. Commissioner Guyot stated that this
Commission never ever voted to support that suggestion. Commissioner Skinner responded that we
should vote on the merits of the event, and to say $3,000 arbitrarily when we’ve
got over $100,000 that we’re somehow hoarding. Chairperson Thomas responded that it’s
not about hoarding, it’s about spending our money wisely. Commissioner Skinner stated that we’ve
got needs in our community that have got to be met. Commissioner Guyot moved that we support
the grant application of the Lower Georgia Ave. Business Development Corp. for
$7,303.57 with the understanding that the $1,975 budgeted for toilets be moved
to the line item for school supplies.
Commissioner Esters asked to clarify the budget figure presented by
Commissioner Skinner, and that the present balance was $92,000. Commissioner Guyot stated, pardon my
sarcasm, but I think we can manage to fund this. Motion was seconded and adopted on a
vote of (8-1-0).
Commissioner Thomas introduced a
grant request from the Ministries of the Reverend Sandra Butler-Truesdale for
$4,000 for the Arts for Youth and Senior Citizens. Rev. Butler-Truesdale stated that this
is an intergenerational education program.
Our intention is to employ youth and senior citizens working together to
understand Hip Hop, Jazz, Gospel and Rhythm & Blues. The program will be done in
collaboration with WPFW.
Commissioner Butler asked if the program could be brought to the public
schools, and Rev. Butler-Truesdale agreed that it could. Jamal Mohammed from WPFW stated that he
would like to have a big event at the Lincoln Theatre with just youths
performing. Chairperson Thomas
asked where they would be holding the workshops, and Rev. Butler-Truesdale
responded that some would be at Campbell Heights, and some at Cada Vez, and some at
the Lincoln Theatre. Commissioner
Spalding commented that there was no specificity in the application indicating
what the monies would be spent on.
There are strictures on what the Commission is allowed to fund, and
lacking any specifics other than $4,000 for a worthy program we’re at a point
where it’s hard to determine the ability of the Commission to fund the
grant. Rev. Butler-Truesdale
responded that she didn’t think the application asked for specifics. Commissioner Spalding responded that on
the web site where the grant application is available there is all of the
updated grant guideline information that’s in our printed forms. Rev. Butler-Truesdale stated that she’d
learned long ago to only answer the questions that were asked. What I will tell you is that none of
this will be used for salaries, it will be for salaries between the two of us,
and actually will not be used for the salaries of the children that we plan to
have participate. Commissioner
Skinner stated that there are very strict guidelines on how the monies can be
spent, and we’ll help you figure those out. I’m sure that the program has lots of
costs and that the $4,000 is a small part of that, and we can show you exactly
what that small part can be.
Commissioners Skinner and Esters moved that “include line item budget” be
added to the grant application form, and it was seconded and adopted
(8-1-0). Commissioner Wright asked
if this would benefit all of the children in ANC1B, and Rev. Butler-Truesdale
agreed that it would, but with an emphasis on the children in Commissioner
Thomas’ SMD. Commissioner Guyot
moved approval of the $4,000 grant application conditioned on receipt of an
acceptable budget plan, and it was seconded and adopted (7-1-0).
Commissioner Thomas introduced a
grant application from the Ministries of the Reverend Sandra Butler-Truesdale,
Inc. for $4,000 to fund an exhibit known as “The History of Rhythm, Blues, Jazz
& Gospel in B & W”. The
Public Welfare Foundation’s guard interrupted to let the Commission know that we
had to leave by 11:30. This is a
collection of 300 black and white photographs that have been housed in a number
of locations. Many of the people
shown in the photos resided in the Dunbar Hotel. We would use this exhibit in the ‘Youth
and Senior Citizen’ program.
Chairperson Thomas asked if this would be an ongoing project, and Rev.
Butler-Truesdale said that as long as she could afford to keep it going, and
that she has already put over $12,000 of her own money into the project. Commissioner Skinner moved that we
support the grant application for $4,000 and instruct the Treasurer to work out
the budget item details, and it was seconded. Treasurer Esters indicated that with the
grants awarded this evening our budget is now at approximately $77,000. Commissioner Guyot reminded the
applicants that they are required to return with an explanation of how the money
was spent within 60 days.
Commissioner Skinner thanked the applicants for the time that they had
given to the community, and that the $4,000 in no way can ever approach the time
and energy that you’ve spent doing this.
Motion was adopted in a vote of (7-2-0).
The Public Welfare Guard
returned to say that we needed to leave the building. Commissioner Guyot stated that he works
for Larry Kressley. I spoke with
Mr. Kressley about our use of the building.
Commissioner Padro spoke to a
resolution regarding the Watha T. Daniel/Shaw Neighborhood Library. The resolution as submitted was moved,
seconded and adopted in a unanimous (8-0-0) vote.
ANC support for Council Bill
15-977 was considered. Commissioner
Guyot stated that this Commission had voted for the right of local citizens to
vote in local elections. This bill
speaks to exactly the same consideration of all residents. Commissioner Guyot moved support for
Council Bill 15-977, and it was seconded and adopted unanimously (8-0-0).
Commissioner Guyot stated that
the President of the LeDroit Park Civic Association was here tonight to discuss
the ongoing plans by Zahn Architects for the project in LeDroit Park. The LPCA voted to approve the plans, and
I’d like the Commission to communicate with the LPCA President to include the
details brought out. Commissioners
Esters asked if this was the property on T Street, and Commissioner Guyot agreed
that it was. Commissioner Guyot
moved approval of the initial concept for this development, and it was seconded
and adopted unanimously (8-0-0).
Sylvia Robinson asked for the
Commissions support for a proposed application to the Dept. of Housing and
Community Development for funding under the Community Development Block
Grant. The request is for $400,000
and is due by Sept. 3rd.
Commissioner Skinner stated that this building had been an eyesore for a
number of years and they are working diligently to improve it. Commissioner Esters stated that Ms.
Robinson has become a very familiar part of the community since she attends
numerous community meetings. She
has made her presence in our community known and she deserves our support. Commissioner Spalding added that she had
managed to sit through three very long ANC meetings. Motion was made to send a letter of
support, and it was seconded and approved (9-0-0).
David Jannarone from Roadside
Development spoke to the development of Parcel 34. Mr. Jannarone apologized to Commissioner
Houston for not having been in touch, but the phone number for the Commissioner
had not been correct. Mr. Jannarone
asked the Commissioners to let them know what the community desires are in
regard to Parcel 34. They are
planning on responding to the RFP for the site, and would like to have as much
input from the Commission as possible.
Chairperson Thomas indicated that a number of developers are interested
in the parcel, and that there is a bidder’s conference to be held next
Wednesday…
The guard for Public Welfare
Foundation interrupted with the request that we leave the building, and
Commissioner Guyot responded that we’re not leaving the building. The guard stated that he had just been
informed by his boss that the building had to be closed at 11:30. Commissioner Guyot asked if his boss was
named Larry Kressley, and the guard responded no but he works for Larry
Kressley. The guard stated that it
was part of his job to close the building, and Commissioner Guyot responded that
he would make sure that he didn’t have a job if he messes this up. Chairperson Thomas asked Commissioner
Guyot to respect the young man, and Commissioner Guyot responded that respects
Larry Kressley.
Commissioner Guyot continued the
discussion on Parcel 34.
Commissioner Guyot stated that hearing this is totally inappropriate,
they will attend the bidder’s conference, and then the winner will have to come
through us and we’ll here him then.
Chairperson Thomas asked if they had the names of other neighborhood
associations, and Mr. Jannarone said that he would appreciate any information
that was extended to him.
Chairperson Thomas offered to put Mr. Jannarone in touch with the Florida
Avenue Watch and other groups near the parcel.
Commissioner Butler asked for a
Commission resolution supporting keeping the Boys and Girls Club in its location
of 14th
Street.
Meeting was adjourned at
approximately 11:35.